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BDU:2023-01000 (CVE-2022-38777)

Vulnerability from fstec – Published: 2023-03-06 – Updated: 2023-03-06 – View on bdu.fstec.ru Fixed

Title

Уязвимость функции помещения вредоносных объектов на карантин средств защиты конечных точек Elastic Security и Elastic Endgame операционных систем Windows, позволяющая нарушителю повысить свои привилегии

Summary

Уязвимость функции помещения вредоносных объектов на карантин средств защиты конечных точек Elastic Security и Elastic Endgame операционных систем Windows связана с недостатками разграничения доступа. Эксплуатация уязвимости может позволить нарушителю повысить свои привилегии

Severity

6.0 (Medium) CVSS 2.0


                      
                        AV:L/AC:H/Au:S/C:C/I:C/A:C

7.0 (High) CVSS 3.0


                      
                        CVSS:3.0/AV:L/AC:H/PR:L/UI:N/S:U/C:H/I:H/A:H

Class

Architecture vulnerability

Status

Confirmed by the vendor

Exploitation

Authorization bypass

Incidents

Being clarified

Remediation

Software update

CWE

CWE-269 - Небезопасное управление привилегиями

Aliases

CVE-2022-38777

References

3 references

URL
https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-7-17-9-8-5-0-and-8-6-1-security-update/324661
https://www.elastic.co/community/security
https://vuldb.com/ru/?id.220467

Impacted products

2 products from 1 vendor

Vendors

Elastic NV

Products

Elastic Endgame, Elastic Security

Versions

до 3.62.2 (Elastic Endgame), до 7.17.8 (Elastic Security), 8.4.3 (Elastic Security)

Product types

Security device, Security software

Platforms

Microsoft Corp Windows -

Mitigations

Использование рекомендаций: https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-7-17-9-8-5-0-and-8-6-1-security-update/324661 Компенсирующие меры: При невозможности установки обновления рекомендуется отключить функцию помещения вредоносных объектов на карантин. Для Elastic Security: Установите значение false в конфигурации windows.advanced.malware.quarantine в разделе Advanced Policy. Для Elastic Endgame: Убедитесь, что для следующих параметров политики не установлено значение «Prevent and Quarantine»: - MALWARE; - MALICIOUS OFFICE FILE; - BLOCKLIST

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{
  "CVSS 2.0": "AV:L/AC:H/Au:S/C:C/I:C/A:C",
  "CVSS 3.0": "AV:L/AC:H/PR:L/UI:N/S:U/C:H/I:H/A:H",
  "CVSS 4.0": null,
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  "\u0412\u0435\u043d\u0434\u043e\u0440 \u041f\u041e": "Elastic NV",
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  "\u0418\u0434\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0438\u0444\u0438\u043a\u0430\u0442\u043e\u0440\u044b \u0434\u0440\u0443\u0433\u0438\u0445 \u0441\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0435\u043c \u043e\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0439 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "CVE-2022-38777",
  "\u0418\u043d\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u0430\u0446\u0438\u044f \u043e\u0431 \u0443\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0438": "\u0423\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u044c \u0443\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0430",
  "\u041a\u043b\u0430\u0441\u0441 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "\u0423\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u044c \u0430\u0440\u0445\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043a\u0442\u0443\u0440\u044b",
  "\u041d\u0430\u0437\u0432\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u041f\u041e": "Elastic Endgame, Elastic Security",
  "\u041d\u0430\u0438\u043c\u0435\u043d\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u041e\u0421 \u0438 \u0442\u0438\u043f \u0430\u043f\u043f\u0430\u0440\u0430\u0442\u043d\u043e\u0439 \u043f\u043b\u0430\u0442\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u044b": "Microsoft Corp Windows - ",
  "\u041d\u0430\u0438\u043c\u0435\u043d\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "\u0423\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u044c \u0444\u0443\u043d\u043a\u0446\u0438\u0438 \u043f\u043e\u043c\u0435\u0449\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0432\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043e\u043d\u043e\u0441\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u043e\u0431\u044a\u0435\u043a\u0442\u043e\u0432 \u043d\u0430 \u043a\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0442\u0438\u043d \u0441\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0432 \u0437\u0430\u0449\u0438\u0442\u044b \u043a\u043e\u043d\u0435\u0447\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0442\u043e\u0447\u0435\u043a Elastic Security \u0438 Elastic Endgame \u043e\u043f\u0435\u0440\u0430\u0446\u0438\u043e\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0441\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0435\u043c Windows, \u043f\u043e\u0437\u0432\u043e\u043b\u044f\u044e\u0449\u0430\u044f \u043d\u0430\u0440\u0443\u0448\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044e \u043f\u043e\u0432\u044b\u0441\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0441\u0432\u043e\u0438 \u043f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0438\u043b\u0435\u0433\u0438\u0438",
  "\u041d\u0430\u043b\u0438\u0447\u0438\u0435 \u044d\u043a\u0441\u043f\u043b\u043e\u0439\u0442\u0430": "\u0414\u0430\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0435 \u0443\u0442\u043e\u0447\u043d\u044f\u044e\u0442\u0441\u044f",
  "\u041e\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u043e\u0448\u0438\u0431\u043a\u0438 CWE": "\u041d\u0435\u0431\u0435\u0437\u043e\u043f\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0435 \u0443\u043f\u0440\u0430\u0432\u043b\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u043f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0438\u043b\u0435\u0433\u0438\u044f\u043c\u0438 (CWE-269)",
  "\u041e\u043f\u0438\u0441\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "\u0423\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u044c \u0444\u0443\u043d\u043a\u0446\u0438\u0438 \u043f\u043e\u043c\u0435\u0449\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0432\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043e\u043d\u043e\u0441\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u043e\u0431\u044a\u0435\u043a\u0442\u043e\u0432 \u043d\u0430 \u043a\u0430\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0442\u0438\u043d \u0441\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0432 \u0437\u0430\u0449\u0438\u0442\u044b \u043a\u043e\u043d\u0435\u0447\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0442\u043e\u0447\u0435\u043a Elastic Security \u0438 Elastic Endgame \u043e\u043f\u0435\u0440\u0430\u0446\u0438\u043e\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0445 \u0441\u0438\u0441\u0442\u0435\u043c Windows \u0441\u0432\u044f\u0437\u0430\u043d\u0430 \u0441 \u043d\u0435\u0434\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0442\u043a\u0430\u043c\u0438 \u0440\u0430\u0437\u0433\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0438\u0447\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f \u0434\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0443\u043f\u0430. \u042d\u043a\u0441\u043f\u043b\u0443\u0430\u0442\u0430\u0446\u0438\u044f \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438 \u043c\u043e\u0436\u0435\u0442 \u043f\u043e\u0437\u0432\u043e\u043b\u0438\u0442\u044c \u043d\u0430\u0440\u0443\u0448\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u044e \u043f\u043e\u0432\u044b\u0441\u0438\u0442\u044c \u0441\u0432\u043e\u0438 \u043f\u0440\u0438\u0432\u0438\u043b\u0435\u0433\u0438\u0438",
  "\u041f\u043e\u0441\u043b\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0432\u0438\u044f \u044d\u043a\u0441\u043f\u043b\u0443\u0430\u0442\u0430\u0446\u0438\u0438 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": null,
  "\u041f\u0440\u043e\u0447\u0430\u044f \u0438\u043d\u0444\u043e\u0440\u043c\u0430\u0446\u0438\u044f": null,
  "\u0421\u0432\u044f\u0437\u044c \u0441 \u0438\u043d\u0446\u0438\u0434\u0435\u043d\u0442\u0430\u043c\u0438 \u0418\u0411": "\u0414\u0430\u043d\u043d\u044b\u0435 \u0443\u0442\u043e\u0447\u043d\u044f\u044e\u0442\u0441\u044f",
  "\u0421\u043e\u0441\u0442\u043e\u044f\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "\u041e\u043f\u0443\u0431\u043b\u0438\u043a\u043e\u0432\u0430\u043d\u0430",
  "\u0421\u043f\u043e\u0441\u043e\u0431 \u0443\u0441\u0442\u0440\u0430\u043d\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f": "\u041e\u0431\u043d\u043e\u0432\u043b\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0433\u0440\u0430\u043c\u043c\u043d\u043e\u0433\u043e \u043e\u0431\u0435\u0441\u043f\u0435\u0447\u0435\u043d\u0438\u044f",
  "\u0421\u043f\u043e\u0441\u043e\u0431 \u044d\u043a\u0441\u043f\u043b\u0443\u0430\u0442\u0430\u0446\u0438\u0438": "\u041d\u0430\u0440\u0443\u0448\u0435\u043d\u0438\u0435 \u0430\u0432\u0442\u043e\u0440\u0438\u0437\u0430\u0446\u0438\u0438",
  "\u0421\u0441\u044b\u043b\u043a\u0438 \u043d\u0430 \u0438\u0441\u0442\u043e\u0447\u043d\u0438\u043a\u0438": "https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-7-17-9-8-5-0-and-8-6-1-security-update/324661 \nhttps://www.elastic.co/community/security\nhttps://vuldb.com/ru/?id.220467",
  "\u0421\u0442\u0430\u0442\u0443\u0441 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "\u041f\u043e\u0434\u0442\u0432\u0435\u0440\u0436\u0434\u0435\u043d\u0430 \u043f\u0440\u043e\u0438\u0437\u0432\u043e\u0434\u0438\u0442\u0435\u043b\u0435\u043c",
  "\u0422\u0438\u043f \u041f\u041e": "\u0421\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0432\u043e \u0437\u0430\u0449\u0438\u0442\u044b, \u041f\u0440\u043e\u0433\u0440\u0430\u043c\u043c\u043d\u043e\u0435 \u0441\u0440\u0435\u0434\u0441\u0442\u0432\u043e \u0437\u0430\u0449\u0438\u0442\u044b",
  "\u0422\u0438\u043f \u043e\u0448\u0438\u0431\u043a\u0438 CWE": "CWE-269",
  "\u0423\u0440\u043e\u0432\u0435\u043d\u044c \u043e\u043f\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438 \u0443\u044f\u0437\u0432\u0438\u043c\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438": "\u0421\u0440\u0435\u0434\u043d\u0438\u0439 \u0443\u0440\u043e\u0432\u0435\u043d\u044c \u043e\u043f\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438 (\u0431\u0430\u0437\u043e\u0432\u0430\u044f \u043e\u0446\u0435\u043d\u043a\u0430 CVSS 2.0 \u0441\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u043b\u044f\u0435\u0442 6)\n\u0412\u044b\u0441\u043e\u043a\u0438\u0439 \u0443\u0440\u043e\u0432\u0435\u043d\u044c \u043e\u043f\u0430\u0441\u043d\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0438 (\u0431\u0430\u0437\u043e\u0432\u0430\u044f \u043e\u0446\u0435\u043d\u043a\u0430 CVSS 3.0 \u0441\u043e\u0441\u0442\u0430\u0432\u043b\u044f\u0435\u0442 7)"
}

CVE-2022-38777 (GCVE-0-2022-38777)

Vulnerability from cvelistv5 – Published: 2023-02-08 00:00 – Updated: 2025-03-25 14:23

Summary

An issue was discovered in the rollback feature of Elastic Endpoint Security for Windows, which could allow unprivileged users to elevate their privileges to those of the LocalSystem account.

Severity

7.8 (High)


                        
                          CVSS:3.1/AV:L/AC:L/PR:L/UI:N/S:U/C:H/I:H/A:H

SSVC

Exploitation: none Automatable: no Technical Impact: total

CISA Coordinator · CISA-ADP (v2.0.3)

Decision recorded 2025-03-25 14:22 UTC

CWE

CWE-269

Assigner

elastic mitre root Scorecard

References

2 references

URL	Tags
https://www.elastic.co/community/security
https://discuss.elastic.co/t/elastic-7-17-9-8-5-0…

Impacted products

1 product

Vendor	Product	Version
Elastic	Elastic Endpoint Security	Affected: Elastic Security versions up to 7.17.8 and 8.4.3 and Elastic Endgame versions up to 3.62.2

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BDU:2023-01000 (CVE-2022-38777)

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